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Old 08-16-2004, 01:15 AM
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I if I wheeled 1-2-3-4-5-6-42-43-44-45-46, theoretically I have a chance to win the jackpot, but in realistic terms 99.9999999% of the time most probably it will be wasted money.


I don’t know how you came up to to this conclusion, but combinations 2,5,42,43,44,46 or 1,3,6,42,43,46 are in my opinion quite fine. If they happen, may create a couple of big winners who don’t depend on “all you can read about lottery strategies”…
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Old 08-16-2004, 09:57 AM
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"As far as I can see your only chance(unless you have a lifespan of 300 000 years) is Ion Saliu's Lotwon 632. I use it it and break even, that is I don't lose money(very important and as yet have not hit the jackpot)."


I am very interested in how you managed to break even with Lotwon 632. Please can you advise over how many Draws this occurred and how many Entries per Draw?
Do you consistently break even or do you have 1 or 2 big wins, plus many losses. Do you change the numbers after each Draw or do you keep them the same?

I would like to use this system for my Lotto Syndicate if it can give a better Win/Cost ratio of 0.3 which is our performance using wheels since the South African Lotto started.
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Old 08-16-2004, 05:13 PM
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Groete BushHappy

I first started with Lotwon99. When I first started it with the South African lottery it rocked me. It gave me one and only one combination and that hit 4 numbers which paid out around R170 . Not bad for an investment of R2,50. I graduated to Lotwon632 which was given to me by Saliu as I posted on his site. 632 is more powerful than 99 although I am still very fond of it. Recently on a trip back to Durban I was playing with it on my laptop while waiting for a connecting fligh to Durbs it gave me another single combination and lo and behold it hit 4 numbers. I use it for the UK lottery as well as the Irish lottery as presented bu the betting shop Ladbrokes. I always play with a reduced field of numbers anything from 12 to 18. These numbers have to be cunningly picked. Fact is if I could pick 12 numbers repeatedly in the nexr couple of draws then the UK lottery will boost my bank balance to the tune of millions. Wins of 3 and 4 numbers come along once in a while.but when they come they offset losses.Lotwon632 is not an opensesame. It requires hard studying and much experimentation as to what it can do or not do.If you need any help I am more than glad to help.
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Old 08-16-2004, 05:46 PM
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I always play with a reduced field of numbers anything from 12 to 18. These numbers have to be cunningly picked. Fact is if I could pick 12 numbers repeatedly in the nexr couple of draws then the UK lottery will boost my bank balance to the tune of millions. Wins of 3 and 4 numbers come along once in a while.but when they come they offset losses.Lotwon632 is not an opensesame. It requires hard studying and much experimentation as to what it can do or not do.If you need any help I am more than glad to help.
Do you pick these 12 - 18 numbers ,or the program does it for you?
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Old 08-17-2004, 01:59 AM
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The program does not pick the pool of numbers for me, I do. It is many programs not just one. One function in Util632 is the statistical reporting of skips. In any given 6/49 lottery draw usually 3 numbers have skips of 6 or less and the other half have skips of 6 or more. 2 numbers generally have skips of 7-12 and one number with a skip of more than 12. So any pool of numbers you play with should have this kind of structure. If all your pool consists of numbers with skips of 6 or less then you are wasting your time. If your numbers are all from skips of 7 and more you are wasting your time. Interestingly enough since the start of the UK lottery in 1994 there was one ocasion when all the numbers came from skips of 12 or more. There were only 9 numbers to play with. This seems to be a freakish occurence though . I am not intersted in the minor prizes all I want is the jackpot that's why i totally ignore wheeling. If you want to win little prizes then I suggest playing the horses in exacta or double bets.
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Old 08-17-2004, 04:35 AM
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In any given 6/49 lottery draw usually 3 numbers have skips of 6 or less and the other half have skips of 6 or more. 2 numbers generally have skips of 7-12 and one number with a skip of more than 12. So any pool of numbers you play with should have this kind of structure. If all your pool consists of numbers with skips of 6 or less then you are wasting your time. If your numbers are all from skips of 7 and more you are wasting your time. Interestingly enough since the start of the UK lottery in 1994 there was one ocasion when all the numbers came from skips of 12 or more. There were only 9 numbers to play with. This seems to be a freakish occurence though . I am not intersted in the minor prizes all I want is the jackpot that's why i totally ignore wheeling. If you want to win little prizes then I suggest playing the horses in exacta or double bets.

Well, wish you luck with dealing with skips. I was once interested in it, but abandoned that idea soon after seeing a lot of skips 1 or a lot of skips over 20 in the same draw. It’s basically same as the hot and cold number strategy, and this strategy may work for someone, but I didn’t have that much success with it. However, good luck.
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Old 08-26-2004, 11:25 AM
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Springbok,

It's great to have won the rugby.

I have done my own Skip analysis for the SA Lottery for the 317 Draws from Draw 68 to 384. Draws 1 to 67 were not considered as only at Draw 68, had all the numbers come in at least 2 times which allowed a Skip value to be calculated for every number since Draw 68. Here are the results


Best Skip profile - Occurred 54 times up to Draw 384
4 of the 6 occurred in the last 6 Draws or less ie <=6
1 of the 6 occurred in the last 7 to 12 Draws or less ie 7 to 12
1 of the 6 occurred greater than 12 Draws ago ie >12

2nd Best Skip profile - Occurred 40 times up to Draw 384
3 of the 6 occurred in the last 6 Draws or less ie <=6
2 of the 6 occurred in the last 7 to 12 Draws or less ie 7 to 12
1 of the 6 occurred greater than 12 Draws ago ie >12[b]Best Skip

Above 2 Skip profiles combined - Occurred 94 times up to Draw 384
Between 3 & 4 of the 6 occurred in the last 6 Draws or less ie <=6
Between 1 & 2 of the 6 occurred in the last 7 to 12 Draws or less ie 7 to 12
1 of the 6 occurred greater than 12 Draws ago ie >12

Another Skip profile - Occurred 99 times up to Draw 384
4 of the 6 occurred in the last 6 Draws or less ie <=6
2 of the 6 occurred greater than 6 Draws ago ie >6
Could this profile be classed as better than all the above 3 profiles?
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Old 08-28-2004, 01:53 PM
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49,6,3,6,163

1 2 3 4 5 49
1 2 6 11 17 20
1 2 7 10 16 21
1 2 8 13 15 18
1 2 9 12 14 19
1 3 6 10 15 19
1 3 7 11 14 18
1 3 8 12 17 21
1 3 9 13 16 20
1 4 6 13 14 21
1 4 7 12 15 20
1 4 8 11 16 19
1 4 9 10 17 18
1 5 6 12 16 18
1 5 7 13 17 19
1 5 8 10 14 20
1 5 9 11 15 21
1 6 7 8 9 49
1 10 11 12 13 49
1 14 15 16 17 49
1 18 19 20 21 49
2 3 6 7 12 13
2 3 8 9 10 11
2 3 14 15 20 21
2 3 16 17 18 19
2 4 6 9 15 16
2 4 7 8 14 17
2 4 10 13 19 20
2 4 11 12 18 21
2 5 6 8 19 21
2 5 7 9 18 20
2 5 10 12 15 17
2 5 11 13 14 16
2 6 10 14 18 49
2 7 11 15 19 49
2 8 12 16 20 49
2 9 13 17 21 49
3 4 6 8 18 20
3 4 7 9 19 21
3 4 10 12 14 16
3 4 11 13 15 17
3 5 6 9 14 17
3 5 7 8 15 16
3 5 10 13 18 21
3 5 11 12 19 20
3 6 11 16 21 49
3 7 10 17 20 49
3 8 13 14 19 49
3 9 12 15 18 49
3 5 6 7 10 11
4 5 8 9 12 13
4 5 14 15 18 19
4 5 16 17 20 21
4 6 12 17 19 49
4 7 13 16 18 49
4 8 10 15 21 49
4 9 11 14 20 49
5 6 13 15 20 49
5 7 12 14 21 49
5 8 11 17 18 49
5 9 10 16 19 49
6 7 14 16 19 20
6 7 15 17 18 21
6 8 10 13 16 17
6 8 11 12 14 15
6 9 10 12 20 21
6 9 11 13 18 19
7 8 10 12 18 19
7 8 11 13 20 21
7 9 10 13 14 15
7 9 11 12 16 17
8 9 14 16 18 21
8 9 15 17 19 20
10 11 14 17 19 21
10 11 15 16 18 20
12 13 14 17 18 20
12 13 15 16 19 21
22 23 25 31 34 48
22 23 25 35 42 43
22 23 28 30 44 46
22 24 26 27 28 44
22 24 31 41 45 48
22 24 33 37 40 41
22 25 27 29 34 43
22 25 30 36 39 43
22 25 32 43 46 47
22 26 31 38 40 48
22 26 33 37 38 45
22 27 28 31 46 48
22 28 29 38 41 44
22 28 34 40 44 45
22 29 30 31 33 48
22 32 33 35 36 37
22 33 37 39 42 47
22 34 37 43 44 46
23 24 27 30 41 46
23 24 29 36 40 47
23 24 32 34 38 39
23 25 27 28 33 37
23 25 30 37 46 48
23 26 29 32 39 45
23 26 32 35 42 45
23 26 34 36 41 47
23 27 32 39 40 41
23 27 36 38 45 47
23 28 31 35 37 42
23 29 30 36 39 42
23 29 37 43 44 48
23 30 31 33 43 46
23 30 34 38 40 46
23 30 35 36 46 47
23 33 35 42 44 48
24 25 26 27 37 48
24 25 28 33 41 45
24 25 31 38 44 45
24 26 27 31 33 43
24 26 29 34 40 45
24 27 34 39 42 47
24 28 38 40 43 48
24 29 30 32 40 42
24 29 35 39 40 46
24 30 34 35 38 47
24 32 35 36 38 41
24 34 36 38 42 46
24 37 41 43 44 45
25 26 28 33 38 40
25 26 31 40 41 44
25 28 29 33 44 46
25 28 30 33 34 43
25 29 37 38 41 48
25 31 32 35 36 44
25 31 32 39 42 44
25 31 35 39 44 47
25 31 36 42 44 47
25 34 37 40 45 48
26 28 41 43 45 48
26 29 30 35 45 47
26 29 32 45 46 47
26 29 36 42 45 46
26 30 32 34 41 42
26 30 32 36 39 45
26 34 35 39 41 46
26 37 38 40 43 44
27 28 29 31 34 37
27 29 33 34 44 48
27 29 34 35 38 41
27 30 31 37 43 44
27 30 32 38 42 45
27 30 35 40 41 47
27 32 34 35 36 40
27 35 38 39 45 46
27 36 40 41 42 46
28 30 31 36 37 39
28 31 32 37 46 47
28 32 35 39 43 48
28 32 36 42 43 48
28 35 36 43 47 48
28 39 42 43 47 48
29 31 33 38 41 43
30 33 36 39 44 48
31 33 34 40 43 45
32 33 44 46 47 48
38 39 40 41 42 47
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Old 08-29-2004, 02:07 PM
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Great news about the Boks. They are where they should be that is Number 1.
Which is the best profile? The best profile is the one that appears in the next draw. How does one determine this? Download Saliu's full blown Mdied.WE. This will give you a statistical report of skips of 1,2,3,4,5 and 6 numbers. The median for the 3 number <=6 is 6. According to Saliu's FFG idea which is based on the algorithm of de Moivre the chances of an event happening increases after a number of misses. For an example if let's say 3 numbers appeared with a skip of >=7 2 times in the previous draws then there is a 75% chance of a 3 number profile appearing with a median of <=6 in the nexr draw. An analysis of previous events shows that this happens more often than not. This can apply in the converse. I do not use MDied but find a look at the statistical reports useful. Also of interest is the Ion3 filter which is based on Fadic addition.
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Old 09-10-2004, 10:40 AM
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Check Lotto-6 Wheels for Missing Combos

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Forever glorious be your names for they prove the existence of serendipity.

This post redivivus shows its date; age, that is. The wheels I announced here are outdated. Just yesterday I released a free program for lotto-6. It checks lotto-6 wheels for coverage. If the wheel is incomplete, WheelCheck6.EXE will generate the missing lines. The freeware also generates balanced lotto-6 reduced systems (sort of wheels).

Just uploaded the freeware – and my site went down! Many things are great about my web host, but one is terrible. They don’t know how to receive mail, snail mail, that is. It appears that the most difficult thing in the world is to receive mail from a location in Pennsylvania to another location in Pennsylvania. My payments rot in their mailbox!

So, for now, WheelCheck6.EXE and the new lottery utility programs (Util*.EXE) are not available.

Best of luck!

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Doctor in Occult Science of Wheeling

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(soon to be back online)
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Old 09-11-2004, 04:57 PM
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Ion Saliu

Ion, why do you waste your time developing wheeling software? Any fool knows that trying to catch the jackpot by wheeling is an utter and total waste of time. Wheeling guarantees that you will not win the jackpot. How about explaining in detail about the usage of Lie files. For example if you PURGE with then would this be the correct technique?
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Old 09-14-2004, 11:31 AM
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Anditser:

Forever axiomatic be your name for it proves the necessity of the quest for knowledge!

You sez:

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“Ion, why do you waste your time developing wheeling software? Any fool knows that trying to catch the jackpot by wheeling is an utter and total waste of time.”


I couldn’t agree with you more, o wise one! That is, on most occasions, but not this time. For this time I agree with you 110%. There have been requests for this kind of wheeling software, including from this forum. Apparently, there are issues with some lotto wheels out there. Players want to see exactly what combinations are missing. So this is only an attempt to help those who do waste time (and money!) with lotto wheeling. There is no serious waste of time for me, really. I wrote my wheeling software many years ago, when I believed lotto wheeling worked. Now I know for sure it doesn’t work:

[url]http://www.saliu.com/bbs/messages/11.html[/url]

(“The myth of lotto wheels or abbreviated lotto systems”).

Only one form of “wheeling” does offer better results than random play. Pick combinations with superior lexicographic indexes, with optimal spacing between them. When I started this thread in rec.gambling.lottery in 2003, I published also such an indexed “wheel” for lotto 5/36 in Florida. The ‘3 of 5’ lexicographically indexed set of combinations beat the random selection by a whole lot, including hitting two jackpots.

But you are right about filtering and purging. They work significantly better than lotto wheeling. The LIE files are a special form of filtering. Reverse strategy works very well against the wheels. You know that in the overwhelming majority of situations the wheels don’t hit the jackpot. Moreover, they perform worse at hitting higher prizes. For example, a ‘3 of 6’ wheel is worse at hitting ‘4 of 6’, ‘5 of 6’, and ‘6 of 6’. So, the wheels are great LIE files! Put the files at the top of a data file (e.g. D6). The LIE files, however, require tedious work sometimes. On the other hand, I can’t afford the luxury of getting into details. But it is easy to get the principle. The rest means some effort on your part — and time to spend, if you have enough! You can cooperate with others. I am pursuing now my own strategies (top 10 pairings and skips), plus I have an issue to settle with the kasinos.

Best of luck!

Laius Usail,
Doctor en Ciencia Oculta de la Rotacion,
Doctor in Occult Science of Wheeling

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(featuring also WheelCheck5.EXE for lotto-5 wheeling and verifying).
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Well Done Saliu u have a great stuff.
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Old 02-09-2008, 05:55 PM
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How can someone calculate the number of combination?
For exeample in 7/39 loto
1,2,3,4,5,6 = first combination
1,2,3,4,5,6,11 = 5th combination
1,2,3,4,5,7,25 = 51 th combination
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help......i don't know what you talking about.....help...
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