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02-06-2009, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by GameBelgium
Lotto Architect, that's not the information we're searching for in this forum thread. Missing numbers in the last x draws are easy to find, with or without software. What we're searching for is a lot more complex, but I'm not gonna repeat it here, take some time to read the posts.
Taaora, no, what you're saying is not the same. The 37 drawings can occur anywhere within the last 100 drawings, and that's not necessarily the last 37 drawings.
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Ok. So, I must search any group of 37 drawings in last 100 drawings in which 36 numbers out of 42 popped up. 6 numbers didn't popped up and they are good to play. Hope i'm right. Now, it can happen that there is no 37/36 and we cal look at 37/37 for 5 numbers, 37/38 for 4 numbers, etc...
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02-06-2009, 05:15 AM
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You got it right this time Taaroa, the only question is: how are you gonna do that? It's not an easy task at all!
BTW: the 37 drawings do NOT have to be consecutive.
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02-06-2009, 11:27 AM
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Hello Taaroa,
If you can not find a 37/36 combination(but check the history of lotto!) then it's better to search for any combination with the most numbers under the 36 and not above the 36. example 32 lines with 33 numbers.
Then you will playing with 7 or 8 or 9 missing numbers instead of 4 or 5 missing numbers.
Thanks for the post !
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02-06-2009, 11:31 AM
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Challenge for sure
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... how are you gonna do that? It's not an easy task at all! ... the 37 drawings do NOT have to be consecutive.
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I would say this is the understatement of the year. To verify all possibilities of 37 draws out of 100, you will have to go through 3.42E+27 sets of 37 combinations or COMBIN(100;37).
Any reason why you choose 100 draws? But even if you reduce that number to 45, you will end up with 215,553,195 sets of 37 combinations.
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02-06-2009, 11:49 AM
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How are you gonna do that...
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You got it right this time Taaroa, the only question is: how are you gonna do that? It's not an easy task at all!
BTW: the 37 drawings do NOT have to be consecutive.
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Hello GameBelgium.
You do understand the question exactly ! I contacted a excel expert(with no knowlegde of lotto) and he said that it is possible to make a generator but he did not know how long it will takes to search all 37/100 combinations.
He came up with te idea of a random formule, but i don't think that's a good plan. But now i have seen that the last 12 months before the last draw ( see posting before) has 2 or more lines with no results/hits in the last draw line. Perhaps it is possible to make a generator/random formule who picks 2 / 3 lines from every month untill he found 37/36. By that we can eliminate a lot from the 37/100 combinations.
Again all combinations 37/100 are ( and the most are 37/42(%?)-37/41(%?)37/40(%?)37/39(%?)37/38(%?)37/37(%?)
(100;37)=3420029547493940000000000000
37/100 = 100% how many % is 37/42 how many % is 37/36 ??
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02-06-2009, 11:57 AM
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Hello Gilles D.
There are never 37/36 in the last 45 lines, in the last 100 it will for sure mostly. Maybe if we take random with 45 lines we have more 37/36 hits.
Thanks for the post and feed back, they are very welcome.
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02-06-2009, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Hello Taaroa,
If you can not find a 37/36 combination(but check the history of lotto!) then it's better to search for any combination with the most numbers under the 36 and not above the 36. example 32 lines with 33 numbers.
Then you will playing with 7 or 8 or 9 missing numbers instead of 4 or 5 missing numbers.
Thanks for the post !
Gandalf
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Thanks.
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02-06-2009, 01:45 PM
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You got it right this time Taaroa, the only question is: how are you gonna do that? It's not an easy task at all!
BTW: the 37 drawings do NOT have to be consecutive.
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How to do that? Yes, good question. I think that you can make a program for that. As there is a lot of combinations, it will take a long time to search the good group of 37 drawings - We need a good programmer. I know Basic programming but it is not the good language to do the job. The algorithm would be :
-Find all 37 combinations in the last 100 drawings (a lot)
- Take the first combination of 37 drawings
- Count the frequency of all 42 numbers
- Find the numbers with frequency 0. If 6 numbers have frequency=0 then that is the good 37 drawings. Else go to next combination until you find the good one with 6 numbers frequency=0.
This is the simple and basic algorithm.
So, I think this is a rather easy program to do but you must program it with a speed language.
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02-06-2009, 03:22 PM
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The number of combinations of 37 drawings among 100 drawings is
3,420,029,547,493,938,143,902,737,600. A huge number. I even don't know how to call this number! So, it will be very long to calculate such a number of combinations of 37 drawings. You need a supercomputer but that is not impossible. If you are lucky, you can find the 6 numbers in the first thousands groups of 37 drawings.
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02-06-2009, 04:56 PM
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I just wrote a small program in Liberty Basic to get all 3,420,029,547,493,938,143,902,737,600 groups of 37 drawings. That is just the first step of the whole process. As I know it will take a very long time to calculate the whole combinations, I just calculate how much time it will take to calculate the first 100 000 combinations. The combinations are not written to screen in order not to slow the process. Result : it take me 25 minutes to get the first 100 000 groups of 37 drawings. Liberty Basic is not a compiled language and is slow. No need to be very intelligent to understand that for calculate only the combinations, it will take me hours . So, we need a good programmer with good abilities who can program C type language or so.
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02-08-2009, 06:31 AM
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Originally Posted by taaroa
How to do that? Yes, good question. I think that you can make a program for that. As there is a lot of combinations, it will take a long time to search the good group of 37 drawings - We need a good programmer. I know Basic programming but it is not the good language to do the job. The algorithm would be :
-Find all 37 combinations in the last 100 drawings (a lot)
- Take the first combination of 37 drawings
- Count the frequency of all 42 numbers
- Find the numbers with frequency 0. If 6 numbers have frequency=0 then that is the good 37 drawings. Else go to next combination until you find the good one with 6 numbers frequency=0.
This is the simple and basic algorithm.
So, I think this is a rather easy program to do but you must program it with a speed language.
taaroa
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Hi Taaroa,
I did some tests and found that it won't always be 37 draws, it could be 34, 35, 36, 38, 39, 40 sometimes. If its 34 combinations, it might have 35 or 34 of the 42 numbers. Maybe the program can allow us to enter a variable that scan through the number of combinations we specify?
Flex
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02-08-2009, 11:48 AM
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lotto results 7 febr 6/42 belgium
Thank you Taaroa , keep doing the good work !
In the last 100 draws there were the next lines
05-03-2008 9 25 31 32 35 36
15-03-2008 4 6 9 13 18 28
29-03-2008 13 15 31 35 37 38
30-04-2008 7 33 36 38 41 42
10-05-2008 12 19 33 36 39 41
14-05-2008 3 15 21 28 36 39
04-06-2008 3 9 11 26 40 41
11-06-2008 4 12 23 35 38 40
14-06-2008 1 11 23 24 31 35
21-06-2008 1 3 4 9 22 31
25-06-2008 6 11 14 15 25 35
23-07-2008 9 19 23 26 29 42
30-07-2008 11 13 14 18 37 42
06-08-2008 1 4 23 27 29 37
20-08-2008 7 18 33 35 38 39
23-08-2008 1 11 17 33 34 39
03-09-2008 1 12 17 25 37 38
06-09-2008 3 12 21 28 36 40
27-09-2008 13 23 27 29 33 40
08-10-2008 7 19 23 27 35 37
11-10-2008 3 18 21 25 36 42
01-11-2008 4 19 22 24 27 41
05-11-2008 9 23 26 33 34 35
22-11-2008 27 28 29 31 36 41
29-11-2008 7 23 27 31 33 38
10-12-2008 1 7 12 18 19 32
13-12-2008 6 12 13 24 34 41
20-12-2008 18 22 28 31 33 36
31-12-2008 12 24 27 28 36 42
03-01-2009 6 19 22 24 33 34
10-01-2009 6 17 22 24 38 39
14-01-2009 7 11 12 14 21 24
24-01-2009 17 18 19 23 36 37
missing numbers
2 5 8 10 16 20
the last lotto results
07-02-2009 2 5 8 10 16 20
combination 33/36
So we also can that the % of 37/36 is not big, but it
happens offently.
Gandalf
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02-09-2009, 01:26 AM
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Hi Taaroa,
I did some tests and found that it won't always be 37 draws, it could be 34, 35, 36, 38, 39, 40 sometimes. If its 34 combinations, it might have 35 or 34 of the 42 numbers. Maybe the program can allow us to enter a variable that scan through the number of combinations we specify?
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Hi Flex,
Yes, I'm aware that, if you search for 6 numbers, it will not be always from 37 drawings. It would be easy to change the search parameters of a program to scan say 34 drawings in all combinations then change the parameter to 35 drawings. The only problem will be time to do that. There are so much combinations of say 35 drawings in 100 drawings.
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02-09-2009, 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Gandalf
Thank you Taaroa , keep doing the good work !
In the last 100 draws there were the next lines
05-03-2008 9 25 31 32 35 36
15-03-2008 4 6 9 13 18 28
29-03-2008 13 15 31 35 37 38
30-04-2008 7 33 36 38 41 42
10-05-2008 12 19 33 36 39 41
14-05-2008 3 15 21 28 36 39
04-06-2008 3 9 11 26 40 41
11-06-2008 4 12 23 35 38 40
14-06-2008 1 11 23 24 31 35
21-06-2008 1 3 4 9 22 31
25-06-2008 6 11 14 15 25 35
23-07-2008 9 19 23 26 29 42
30-07-2008 11 13 14 18 37 42
06-08-2008 1 4 23 27 29 37
20-08-2008 7 18 33 35 38 39
23-08-2008 1 11 17 33 34 39
03-09-2008 1 12 17 25 37 38
06-09-2008 3 12 21 28 36 40
27-09-2008 13 23 27 29 33 40
08-10-2008 7 19 23 27 35 37
11-10-2008 3 18 21 25 36 42
01-11-2008 4 19 22 24 27 41
05-11-2008 9 23 26 33 34 35
22-11-2008 27 28 29 31 36 41
29-11-2008 7 23 27 31 33 38
10-12-2008 1 7 12 18 19 32
13-12-2008 6 12 13 24 34 41
20-12-2008 18 22 28 31 33 36
31-12-2008 12 24 27 28 36 42
03-01-2009 6 19 22 24 33 34
10-01-2009 6 17 22 24 38 39
14-01-2009 7 11 12 14 21 24
24-01-2009 17 18 19 23 36 37
missing numbers
2 5 8 10 16 20
the last lotto results
07-02-2009 2 5 8 10 16 20
combination 33/36
So we also can that the % of 37/36 is not big, but it
happens offently.
Gandalf
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Thanks Gandalf,
I see that you continue getting good results from your analysis. I wonder how you get your 6 numbers without a program. Very good performance. Your successes to find your 6 numbers make me think that there is probably an easier mean to find those numbers that using the program the way I told.
taaroa
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02-09-2009, 02:39 AM
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Just an idea: instead of using the 37/100 combinations, why not use the 6 number combinations to write your program? In a 6/42 Lotto systems, there are 5.245.786 combinations, which is a lot less than 3,420,029,547,493,938,143,902,737,600.
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