You didn't say what type of lottery it is, 6/49 5/50 or whatever. To me it sounds like you don't have enough history to get 5 skips. The amount needed varies but you might try lowering the 'draws used' setting. The program removes that number of draws from history before starting to gather the 5 skips from each number. So if it's set to 30 and you have 110 history then you only have 80 draws and each number needs to have 5 skips.

The larger lotteries can have 40-50+ skip values so even 200 draws might not give you 5 skips.

BP,

I'm trying to figure the threshold value for skip sums.
Adding the median skip values seems too low, so almost everything is over.
Options:

• Add 5 for Median skip values +1
• Add value for Draws used/Number of balls drawn (typically 6 or 7)
• Add value for Maximum Ball Number/Balls drawn (typically 8-10)
• Some other suggestion I haven't thought of yet

I get different results depending on lottery. For 5/39 the first option seems fine, but for say euroMillions 5/50 nothing seems to fit so far. Still checking.
Just wanted to see if you had any input on adjusting this a bit.

New version (1b) now available...

http://www.amafrog.com/halfbee/bpskip1b.zip

This version has the skip sum section added.

View the readme file for information, right now it's using the sum of the median skip values plus (how many draws you used for gathering skips divided by the number of balls drawn in the lottery game).

It will automatically figure this value or you can elect not to have it calculated and enter the value you want to use.

Got it, and thanks for the new version.

I've written a program that checks the high/low threshold of the draws
prior to winning and this sets my range. I determine how many times
numbers hit say between (1 to 5) or (1 to 6) or (1 to 7), etc. for skip1, than
that's my low and above this is my high. For example if my test shows
most numbers win between 1 to 6, then 6 and less is my low and above
6 is my high.

-BP

Nope Nope... been there, done that...
This part was a sum of skips 1 to 5 for the winning numbers that patterns were collected on. Just looking for a relationship of matching the patterns to whether the sum of their skips was above or below a threshold value.

Say a number had skips 2-8-2-12-4 and our pattern was 56565 (using 6 as a median skip value) well they add up to 28. If you add the median skip values (6,6,6,6,6) that's 30 so this pattern when it hit was Under threshold. Most patterns when they hit are Over threshold. This needs a booster value to even things out since many winning numbers have values WAY above median in their skip cycles and throws things off when trying to match the same patterns to other numbers for the next draw.

Just a tweak with a different spin for the same pattern selections as before. It does show some real similarities between some of the patterns with the same number of counts over a given span. I'll give an example next post...

Here's an example of 5/55 drawing.
After gathering all the skip values for the winning number over a 35 draw cycle we end up with:
Median skip values for skips 1 to 5: 7,8,8,7,7
Threshold 44 (7+8+8+7+7=37 plus 35draws/5balls=7) <this is what I was asking about...

Sample Skip Data
#_____Skips_____Pattern____Sum/OverUnder
13 | 9,12,0,6,11 66556 38U <#1
19 | 7,25,12,4,4 56655 52O
32 | 13,6,0,14,30 65566 63O
38 | 7,6,13,9,12 55666 47O
51 | 36,5,8,3,12 65656 64O <#2

Now on our pattern count list we see 2 of these patterns at 8 and 9 occurances each
66565 (8) 2/6
66656 (8) 0/8
55665 (8) 3/5
66556 (8) 2/6 <#1
56665 (9) 3/6
65656 (9) 3/6 <#2

Now all the 9s were 3 under and 6 over threshold so it's fairly consistant.
The 8s have 2 at 2/6 one at 3/5 more toward middle ground and one at 0/8 meaning it's always shown up over threshold. With so many over median we would expect this to be so...

It's the extra that needs to be added to the sum of the skip values to find a consistant indicator.

If we just use the sum of the median values (in this case 37) then you can see that ALL the winning numbers would have been marked as over threshold (and about 95% of everything else too). With larger lottos the skip values can be very high and the medians have a hard time showing us which direction they are moving.

This was just mentioned as a possible indicator so I threw it in to see if anything came out of it.

Hi HalfBee

Please ad a reset button, it will make life just that easier.
Thanks

BlouBul

What section/process did you want to reset?
Is it you want to refigure skips and patterns with different filter values or number of draws? I could do that just by not hiding the Get Skips button.

Hi HalfBee

Yes please, because if you want to change the number of draws you must close it and re-open again , by having a reset button which "ZERO" all previous selections, you can continue without going in and out.

Thanks

BlouBul

Ok, See if this works better for you...

[url]http://www.amafrog.com/halfbee/bpskip1c.zip[/url]

Left the number of draws field enabled and get skips button active.
Won't move draws from 'future' list until you actually select Next Draw.
Should allow you to test different ranges of filter and draw history.

Let me know if I broke it upgrading to SP1 on my .Net 35 and Visual Studio. Don't have my laptop for testing the next couple weeks...

Hi Halfbee,

Is there an option whereby I can add back the future draws after using it for test? Like intially I set 5 future draws for testing 25 draws skips, and used up 3 future draws for test. Now I want to change to using 23 draws skips, but I am only left with 2 draws for test, which means I will need to close the program and restart again to change the future draws back to 5 .

Thanks in advance for the help. and great program.

And can you allow an option whereby I can copy and paste the skip patterns into excel?

Thanks

Ok... You can now reset the 'Future Draws' either back to the original count or to a different number of draws with a 'Reset' button in the Lottery Setup section.

I've also added in a copy to clipboard item for the Pattern and Numbers lists. If you Right-Click on either of these lists it will put the contents on the clipboard for pasting into Excel or text editor etc... It will only take the CURRENT contents of these lists, so if you remove patterns or numbers through the elimination process they won't be copied.

Patterns are copied as pattern and count. Numbers are copied as ball number, pattern, and X if it's part of the current draw we're working with.

Version bpskip1d...
http://www.amafrog.com/halfbee/bpskip1d.zip

Nice work, thank you very much, Halfbee