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Old 07-15-2008, 02:35 AM
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Thank you very much taaroa, now I see how its done.

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Old 07-15-2008, 02:43 AM
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Hi Flexalong,

This is another post by Bushappy.

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Andrew,

When I first started, I had Criteria for Occurences etc.
I admit I was very lucky at the beginning, but the method has since failed quite a few times.

I have now decided to do away with criteria and provide tables showing milestones/records of occurences in each category and how often these records are broken, equalled or nearly hit.

See sheet '100 Drw Cat Predict for Drw 433' of file 'BH No Elimination Method - Predictions.xls' You will see that if #21 hits in the next draw, it will have occurred 21 times in 100 Draws. This has only occurred 1 in 15.86 Draws.

Now look at Columns M to Q of sheet '100 Draws Stats' of file ''BH No Elimination Method - Predictions.xls' You will see that this occurred 21 times in 333 draws - hence 1 in 15.86

Column P is for the occurrence interval The highest occurrence interval is 78. We could say that, it will be unlikely to ever have an interval of 79 - thus if an occurence of 21 in 100 Draws has not occurred for 78 draws, then any numbers falling in this catergory will probably hit.

Column Q is consecutive occurences - the highest is 2 (1 time). We could say that, it will be unlikely to ever have a consecutive of 3- thus if an occurence of 21 in 100 Draws has occurred 2 times in a row, then any numbers falling in this catergory will probably not hit.

The final decision on wether to predict a hit or a miss for a particular number is left up to the user, as I don't think a PC can think for you - maybe with AI?

I will be adding more columns to the 'stats' sheets, but this takes time and the files will get bigger. In the end, maybe set theory can be used - intersecting sets. I will have to get out my old books.


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Thank you very much taaroa, now I see how its done.

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Old 07-15-2008, 03:59 AM
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Hi taaroa, thanks for the help again. I have been reading it, but I still don't understand how bushhappy came up with the values for "occurrence interval" and "consecutive occurences" and I can't relate some of things mentioned as I have change all the data to suit my lottery.

Hi Bloubul, can you tell me which instruction you are stuck at?
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Old 07-15-2008, 04:57 AM
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Hi Flexalong

My problem was that I could not get the Future Occurence Tool to update, I only can get Excel to calculate up to 80% and than it stops, thus I've tried to duplicate all sheets but to no avail, so if you have worked out how to eliminate the numbers please tell me in plain English what to do, and how can I fix the problem of Occurence tool??????

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Old 07-15-2008, 11:48 PM
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Hi Bloubul,

Do you happen to have GH Advantage Plus? If you do, you can just refer to the Hits chart which is the same thing, just change the gamegroups.
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:59 PM
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For 100 draws gamegroup, if the number of times a particular number occurred equal to or more than 18 times, remove it.

For 75, 50, 35, 20, 17, 10, 6 draws gamegroup, remove numbers equal or more than 15, 12, 10, 7, 7, 6, 5 respectively
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:47 AM
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For 100 draws gamegroup, if the number of times a particular number occurred equal to or more than 18 times, remove it.

For 75, 50, 35, 20, 17, 10, 6 draws gamegroup, remove numbers equal or more than 15, 12, 10, 7, 7, 6, 5 respectively

Hi Flexalong

Yes I happen do have GH Advantage Plus, but I could not realy get to work for me. Please give me a bit more detail, looks like you are well versed with GH

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Hi Flexalong

My problem was that I could not get the Future Occurence Tool to update, I only can get Excel to calculate up to 80% and than it stops, thus I've tried to duplicate all sheets but to no avail, so if you have worked out how to eliminate the numbers please tell me in plain English what to do, and how can I fix the problem of Occurence tool??????

BlouBul

Hi Bloubul,

I think that you must be patient when you update your files. I noticed that the copy-paste process is slow in the Future Occurence Tool spreadsheet. So, it may stop some time at 80% then resume to reach 100%.
I just updated this sheet and noticed it's slow albeit I have a 1 MGHZ CPU.

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Old 07-16-2008, 03:42 AM
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Yes I happen do have GH Advantage Plus, but I could not realy get to work for me. Please give me a bit more detail, looks like you are well versed with GH

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Hi Bloubul,

I am not sure what you really mean when you say it doesn't work for you. But if it works and you can open up the "Hits chart", you will be able to see 4 columns. 1st column uses all draws, second column 50, third column 25 and fourth column 10. So you press F4, to change the gamegroups from 50, 25 and 10 to 6, 10, 17. You notice to the right of the lottery numbers are numbers that mark the number of times the particular lottery number occurred for that game group. Note down numbers that have occurrance of equal or more than 5 under the column 6 gamegroup, which is the last column. Do the same for 10 and 17 gamegroup except use 6 and 7 respectively as criterias for removal of numbers. Then change the gamegroups to 20, 35, 50 and repeat the process, and after that do the sames things gamegroups 75 and 100.

And in regards to the excel document, "Future Occurence Counting Tool" I am using only past 100 or so draws, so I don't notice any status of calculations but I do see it in when I update new draw numbers in "BH No Elimination Method".
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:59 AM
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Hi Taaroa,

Do you know how Bushhappy derive with the values for occurrence interval" and "consecutive occurences"?

And are you able to follow these instructions "Occasionally you can make a statement that for a group of numbers that you are 100% certain that they will not appear at the next draw. Or you can make a statement that for a group of numbers that you are 100% certain that at least one of the numbers will appear - if there is only 1 number in this group, then you will be 100% certain that this number will appear."?

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Old 07-16-2008, 06:13 AM
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Hi Taaroa,

Do you know how Bushhappy derive with the values for occurrence interval" and "consecutive occurences"?

And are you able to follow these instructions "Occasionally you can make a statement that for a group of numbers that you are 100% certain that they will not appear at the next draw. Or you can make a statement that for a group of numbers that you are 100% certain that at least one of the numbers will appear - if there is only 1 number in this group, then you will be 100% certain that this number will appear."?

Thanks in advance

Hi Flexalong,

I have not looked at the "occurence interval" yet.
I think that Bushappy used this concept because the numbers occurences or frequencies references to eliminate numbers is not a 100% sure strategy which can fail from time to time. He consequently add a condition which is the occurence interval i.e the number of draws between two hits of the strategy, to be more accurate. In fact, it is the skip method applied to a particular strategy.
The bushappy method is a method used by players from a long time. The number frequency is just one parameter to look at among others. It can be useful if you keep in tight zone. If for example you find that a frequency of 19 have never happened in 100 draws, then you can be sure to be right. But, if you say : this frequency happened only 11 times so I'll play it and pray it will not happen this time, this is not a sure strategy.
So, at level 1, the criteria must be tight. For other levels, the criteria are looser and more risky. Bushappy added 1 to the frequency to give a little more security to his method. This is the originality of his method.

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Old 07-16-2008, 08:45 PM
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Thanks Taaroa, you painted a clearer picture for me.
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Hi Guys,

I've added the Bushhappy elimination method into WinnaLotto.
Details about it will be posted in this thread:

[url]http://www.lotto649.ws/lotto-tips-strategies/10750-winnalotto-sangoma-2-a-38.html[/url]

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Bloubul

Bloubul,

Could you (or someone) post the excel file once more? Please?

I have used the condensed version Patrick put on Winnalotto. I see why Bushhappy was better pleased with the intervals and not the max value though.

Thanks!
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