Hi joesam

Geluk met jou verjaarsdag gister. Ek dink ons moet nommers deel miskien maak ons dit dan. Dis hoe ek dit uit WinnaLotto gekry het:
3 39
7 47
22 33
7 32
22 39
7 20
10 22
21 33
7 24
15 33
20 33
7 49
33 49
7 22
16 22
7 15
33 45
32 33
34 33
7 21

BlouBul

At the moment I don't play lotteries except for the bookies lottery. At least I make some money out of these generous people, bless them

The last SA lottery was unbalanced when you consider the lexicographic index. You got 2 numbers. To evaluate your result one has to know how many combinations you played to find out if you are beating random expectations. For example if you just picked 6 numbers out of the blue then you would have a theoretical 57% chance of hitting 1 number in the 6/49 game. Playing 5 combinations will give you a 50% chance of hitting 2 numbers in a combination. If you could eliminate numbers from the original pool of 49 then the odds will shorten when you generate combinations.

Hi Springbok
This was the final numbers:
3
7
10
15
16
20
21
22
24
32
33
34
39
45
47
49

Combo's Played
07 33 22 15 20 21
07 32 39 49 03 10
07 16 24 34 45 47
33 22 32 39 16 24
33 15 49 03 34 45
20 21 32 10 34 47
20 21 49 03 16 24
22 15 39 10 45 47
33 20 39 49 16 47
33 21 03 10 24 45
22 15 32 49 24 34
07 22 20 39 03 34
07 15 21 32 16 45
22 15 03 10 16 47
07 33 49 10 24 47
22 21 39 49 34 45
33 20 32 03 45 47
15 20 39 10 24 45
07 33 21 10 16 34
15 21 39 03 24 47
22 20 32 49 10 45
07 15 20 32 39 34
07 22 21 49 45 47
07 33 32 03 16 34
33 20 39 10 16 34
07 22 15 32 16 24
33 15 21 32 39 49
33 22 15 20 34 47
07 33 15 20 03 10
07 22 32 39 24 45
07 33 15 21 49 16

If incorrect please help.
BlouBul

That was an appalling result. The total pits. How did you arrive at those numbers you picked? Are you shooting yourself in the foot by wheeling?

Hi Sprinbok

Please correct me to put only the selected numbers together, as I don't know how,"How did you arrive at those numbers you picked?
e.g 7 : 21 Median 2 Skip 0 Skips 0 0 1 2 0 0 0 2 0 4 1 6 7 3 0 1 1 1 4 0 6 9 1 3 9 2 4 9. I select all the numbers with Skip 0 and Skips 0 0 1 etc.

BlouBul

I had a look at that draw. I tell you this, that draw was totally unwinnable. The only people who would have had a chance would have been people who choose numbers from their birthdays, month they were born and looking at car number plates. The filter metrics produced by Bright6 were totally wacky.

Hi Bloubul & Springbok

I think sharing of numbers sounds like a good idea. I still am struggling to understand the winnalotto software. So, I use whatever I can from winnalotto and also play using lds (my old method).

So, let us begin to discuss Wednesdays numbers!

Hi Springbok,
I don't understand your comment about wheeling. Please explain?

Cheers

Hi joesam

Die week sal maar moeilik gaan, want ek is op die pad, maar ek sal jou dop hou. Ek sal die naweek myne gee.

BlouBul

draws comprised entirely of birthdates suck, unless recent draws have been oversaturated with upper 30's and numbers in the 40's.

oh and 4 consecutive numbers stink also, pari-mutuel games sure have crappy payouts for prizes from such combos...maybe 1/5 the usual prize

cya,
blitzed

Google your way to lotto Logix and click on wheeling and experiment with the wheels offered there. A wheel uses a limited pool of numbers. The aim is to capture a subset of 3 numbers in a certain amount of combinations provided the three or more winning numbers are in the pool. Each wheel offers certain guarantees. Wheels are partial in that they can never offer a 100% guarantee. A full wheel covers all eventualities. If you want to win the 6/49 game a full wheel would have nearly 14 million combinations. If you want to capture 3 numbers in the game there is a wheel which has around 160 combinations. You will catch 3 numbers in every draw. The only problem is that it will cost you £160 to win £10. Lotto trix offers a 54 combination wheel to catch 2 numbers every draw. The only problem it will cost you £54 to win £0. Experiment with wheels youself to see whatsup. After a while consign wheels to the rubbish basket for recycling.

Good Morning Everyone,

Happy Birthday for 2 days ago joesam.

Well I must agree, the Lotto numbers were totally out of whack. I am extremely surprised anyone got it. I presume it must have been one or two large syndicates or as Springbok suggested, people with favourite dates, 31 and below are usually selected more often for that reason.

In saying that, I was however able to get a row of 3 and a row of 3 plus BB.

My selections came from:

Hist High 28 38 5 30 34 42
Cold 44
Draadsitters 10 16
Uboat 21 22 25 45 48
YoYo Up High Prob 8 18
InBetweener 10 19 20 49
FulHouse6 4 19 30 27 28 29 42

I expected a low total, a double pair or trip (digit ending). I also expected a 4 digit ending to come in and relied on 34 and 44 to do this job for me.

The 7 and 9 were definitely unpredictable and even though we see the draws 'live', I can definitely see the angle that Moses stipulates regarding the draws.

I agree with Springbok, abbreviated wheeling will ensure that you get at most about 3 or 4 balls in with a draw. There are methods though to optimise the wheel with relation to digit endings, sum totals, odds & evens etc. this I feel will put you at the next level, up to 5 balls or possible 5 + bonus.

The best method I see, would be to generate all the possible combinations the your selected numbers, then applying tertiary filters, remove the impossible and unlikely selections, making your criteria tighter & tighter until you end up with the required number of rows you want to play.

Regards
Patrick

I am going to offer some suggestions for the program. The first one will mirror my VB 6 stuff. Assume you load an alpha type filter ie
1, 2
3,4
5,6
....
47, 48

the program then reads the data base and converts the numbers into that format and writes to another file calling it say alpha. When you look at the result each combination represents a pool of 12 numbers. The question is what is the repeat cycle of each pool. I have found that the median is around 20,000. Which means that 50% of the time the previous 20,000 combinations representing 20,000 pools of 12 numbers are no hopers. Of course no real lottery draw has that many combinations so we have to produce simulated draws of 30 to 40 thousand. Now assume you have a few combinations you want to play and they have repeated in the last 20,000 combinations then eliminate them as no hopers.
If I remember correctly there are 15,000 possible pools of 12 numbers.

Oops, the previous median is wrong. So far it is 210,000 and counting for the 7/49 game. You would be looking at using a database of around 300,000. You would need to have a couple of databases to hunt down which way the draw will swing around the median. My VB6 does the conversions reasonably quickly in under 30 seconds.

Hi Springbok,
Thanks, I'll have a go and see if I can get something working there. I added Moses' number table into Winnalotto to evaluate the use of it as a tertiary filter. What I have noticed, using it, at best it matches about 5 numbers if you only enter the 7 numbers from the draw. The problem now is, as you extra numbers, the selection expands virtually exponentially. ie. For the SA Saturday draw, There are 4 Rows with a match 5. now if I add a single ball extra, this expands to 15 Rows of Match 5. One more ball, and it jumps to 28 rows.

Very likely I'll use it along similar concepts to your above post, to eliminate 'used' rows and see what's left.

Regards
Patrick